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Program D - ask Noel Bush about his plans for Program D. Without
significant fundraising, it is unlikely that the Foundation will continue to
support a major software development effort. We will concentrate on AIML
standards and content. There are enough other AIML software projects going
on now for us to get out of that business.
Logo - We had to change the logo because Nika Dubrovsky demanded that we
begin paying money to use the former "Catherine the Great wearing a Turban"
logo, which was somehow "un-donated" to the Foundation. The new logo is
based on the very first ALICE logo we used in 1995, both designed by Sage
Greco. Any resemblence with any other secret society logo is purely
coincidental.
Membership - Many nonprofits have memberships. We don't yet. We would like
to find ways for the community to become more involved in the Foundation
governance. Membership is one way under consideration to do this.
Nothing has been decided with respect to fees, secret handshakes, loyalty
oaths, or personality cults :-) If you want input, please volunteer for the
Membership committee.
Rich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adjamir Galv�o"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: [alicebot-developer] Different web sites, different minds ?
> How about the other questions? No reply?
>
>
> >
> >Don't worry Stephane, everything will be consilidated as alicebot.org
very
> >soon. We are migrating from the old ISP sunlitsurf to the new server at
> >Franz.com, and the domain name alicebot.org will catch up soon.
> >
> >Rich
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "St�phane MOR"
> >To:
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 7:24 AM
> >Subject: [alicebot-developer] Different web sites, different minds ?
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I saw that there were several "official" web sites, ie:
> > > - http://www.alicebot.org/ which leads to http://alice.sunlitsurf.com/
> > > - http://alicebot.franz.com/, which appeared recently in the
> >mailing-lists
> > >
> > > From what I read, I think that alicebot.org moved to sunlitsurf for
ISP
> > > problems, or hosting prices, or something like that ...
> > >
> > > For the one at Franz.com, Mr. Wallace posted in a previous mail:
> > >
> > > > Try the new documentation resource:
> > > > http://alicebot.franz.com/documentation.html
> > >
> > > , which is why I think that this one is also an official one, as it
> >provides
> > > documentation that other sites don't have.
> > >
> > > Is there any reason why http://alicebot.franz.com/ welcomes us with a
> > > huge eye in a pyramid ? Those two elements combined form a well-known
> >icon,
> > > almost a caricature, of freemasonry. You can see it there:
> > > http://alicebot.franz.com/logo.jpg
> > >
> > > I know that in "freemasonry" there is "free" as in "free software".
> > > Though, freemasonry is considered here as a sect (I can't tell about
the
> >US,
> > > as they tolerate scientology, so why not freemasonry?).
> > >
> > > Another element is the statement at the end of
> > > http://alicebot.franz.com/who.html:
> > >
> > > "The Foundation plans to announce a membership policy shortly."
> > >
> > > What will this "membership policy" be ?
> > > Will we have to learn those funky handshakings that freemasons use to
> > > recognize
> > > each other ?
> > > Will there be a membership fee ?
> > > Will we have to buy books to be accepted in the Alice Grand Lounge ?
> > >
> > > I am really worried about recent changes in the organization of
> > > ProgramD/AIML ...
> > > To me, it's getting less and less free, and more and more elitist.
> > >
> > > If I don't get an answer giving details on those points and rock-solid
> > > reasons
> > > why the ALICE Foundation won't transform into a sect, won't go against
> > > freedom
> > > of mind, then I'll quit everything ProgramD/AIML related, and I WILL
> > > convince my
> > > managers and all interested parties that ProgramD/AIML IS NOT THE WAY
TO
> >GO.
> > >
> > > Waiting for a "reasonable" answer,
> > > St�phane
> > >
> > > PS: I have absolutely nothing against money interfering with AIML.
> >Companies
> > > interested in free software gan give it a bit boost, and show it in
the
> > > public
> > > place, which is something that is very profitable to free software.
> > > Though, the way the ALICE Foundation seems to choose is anything but
> > > sane and
> > > clear, IMO.
> > >
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